Wednesday, June 25, 2008

Wats better PS3 or X-Box 360?

May be...
  • - ps3 has a built-in blu-ray player (360 does not



    -ps3 supports 1.3 HDMI which has rich colors and xbox supports 1.2 HDMI



    - ps3 has much more and better exclusives, most of them cant go to xbox 360 because it cant handle that many data(DVD- 8.5gb, blu-ray 50gb)



    - because of the blu-ray's huge space, ps3 will have WAY better graphics than 360



    - online is free for ps3 not like 360



    - ps3 will have over 300 games released by this spring



    - you can browse the internet on ps3, no such thing for xbox 360



    - playstation home is coming out this spring, its a virtual community where you can hang out with friends and customize your own apartment which xbox doesnt have(FREE)



    - ps3 is a true HD console. xbox 360 upscale games to 1080p and ps3 DISPLAY games up to 1080p



    - built in Wi-Fi ( not on 360)



    - xbox 360: 33% hardware failure

    ps3: .2% hardware failure(see the decimal? less than 1%!)



    - ps3 has better back-comp except the 40gb



    - xbox 360 already has been maxed out to its potential with gears of war. ps3 has not been maxed out yet- look at uncharted drakes fortune, better graphics than gears and its only 30% of ps3’s potential



    - you can upgrade your harddrive without voiding warranties with any 2.5 HDD, which xbox cant because you have to buy a xbox HDD

    (they actually have the step by step on how to upgrade it on playstation.com)



    those are the ones that i know right off my mind but there are much more reason than this



    Now I want you to do me a favor, list all the reasons why xbox is better than ps3. I PROMISE you that nobody will get at least 5 reasons



    if you get ps3, look at this, you will be able to play metal gear solid 4, haze, killzone 2, resistance 2(60 player online!!!!), final fantasy XIII, motorstorm 2, little big planet, better version of GTA IV, god of war 3, uncharted drake's fortune, heavenly sword, ratchet and clank, SOCOM: confrontation, gran turismo 5, ETC- http://news.filefront.com/ps3-exclusives...



    All 360 has is Gears of War 2 and ... The world may never know.



    Prices as of today:

    ps3- 80gb: $499 with MGS4 and a Dualshock 3

    40gb: $399 with spiderman 3 blu-ray

    xbox 360(premium)- $349

    (elite)- $449

    if you want the accessories that ps3 comes with, that would add up to over 700 dollars, so that means ps3 is cheaper



    xbox 360 pricing to match ps3's features:

    $349/$449- console

    $50- XBL subscription(only for 1 YEAR) pay $50 every year

    $100- wi-fi adaptor

    $200- HD-DVD drive add-on

    $20- rechargeable battery kit

    all comes out to $720/$820- add $50 each year you subscribe for XBL



    ps3 features:

    $399/$499- console

    spiderman 3 blu-ray movie/motorstorm

    online- free

    rechargeable battery- built in the controller

    wi-fi built in

    blu-ray player(better than HD-DVD) built in

    all comes out to $399/$499, oh my,look at that, its the same price as before

    PS3 will win the console war, no doubt. Xbox 360 and Wii are so weak from technological point of view, that in couple of years they won't be capable of dealing with serious graphics. GTA IV, for instance, Was not even announced for Wii - this toy won't be able to cope with the game's requirements.



    Let's compare PS3 and XBOX 360:



    1). A third of XBOX 360 (33%) are malfunctioning right from the start. PS3 return rate is only around 0.2%. Despite some people say, that new 360 has no breakdown issues - just visit Xbox section of Yahoo answers and see for yourself an amount of complaints.

    2). PS3 has 7 kernels in Cell processor, Xbox 360 -only 3.

    3). PS3 uses advanced tech called Blu-Ray, one disc can store up to 25 (single layer) and dual layer 54 gb (in the future - up to 200 gb), Xbox 360 - regular dual layer DVD-9 (8.5GB). It's possible to get HD-DVD (max. - 30GB) for 360, but it'll cost you around 50$. Besides, HD-DVD had lost the format war with Blu-ray. Toshiba had stopped to manufacture them, Microsoft too.

    4). Calculations per sec - PS3 - 51-billion-dot-product-operati... per second

    Xbox 360 - 33.6-billion-dot-product-opera... per second

    5). PS3 has full media support - USBs, built-in 4 slots card reader (except 20GB and 40GB versions), ability to use printer and so on.

    Xbox 360 has USBs and only 2 memory slots.

    6). PS3 supports up to 7 Bluetooth Controllers

    Xbox 360 - up to 4 Controllers

    7). PS3 - wi-fi included (except 20 gb version)

    Xbox 360 - wi-fi will cost you around 100 $

    8). From the first technical sight - graphics are stronger in 360 (it has a stronger graphics chip - Xenos), BUT PS3 can use it's Cell CPU for graphics too, which gives you better graphics in total. PS3 uses a weaker RSX chip, that was developed by Nvidia exclusively for PS3. RSX runs on 550 Mhz. It's difficult to compare their graphics, because 360 has a video chip with totally different structure and operating memory is divided differently in both consoles. Xbox isn't that versatile in dividing tasks between CPU and GPU as PS3. That's why PS3 exclusives look better than 360's exclusives.

    9). Xbox 360 is widely known for so-called "red ring of death" problem - it gets overheated easily. My PS3 was running for more than 15 hours non-stop with no problems. Sometimes Xbox 360 becomes so overheated, that thermopaste on CPU melts, drips on motherboard and successfully shortcircuits it. That's why in some countries people call Xbox 360 "Coffin 360".

    10). In 2008 PS3 will get more than 300 games, including Metal Gear Solid 4, The Agent and other great exclusives. Here is the good link to the future PS3 releases. http://ps3.ign.com/index/release.html......

    11). PS3 online is free, Xbox 360 - you have to pay.

    12). There were reports, that 360 scratches discs. No reports on that in PS3.

    13). The funniest thing, that right now there are no games for PS3, that show full potential of the console. Biggest games weigh only 25 GB (Xbox 360 will need more than 3 discs even for those).

    14). On PS3 you can install other OS, such as Linux Yellow Dog, Ubuntu and others. Sony officially lets you do it. There is no such thing in 360.

    15). PS3 HDD can be replaced easily with any 2.5" SATA 5400 RPM HDD (used in laptops). 250 GB will cost you around 170$. In 360 you have to buy exclusive HDD, where 20GB will cost you 100$.

    16).Sony expects PS3 to stay on the market for, at least, 7-10 years. Also Sony reduces price now. There is a cheaper 40GB version of PS3.

    17).Sony constantly upgrades PS3 software (free updates for OS) - you get new functions and improvements.

    18). PS3 controller (sixaxis) has a motion control - you move controller - game responds. Wii has it, Xbox 360 - doesn't. PS3 is getting rumble controller (Dualshock 3) on 15.04.2008, Japan already has it. On www.ebay.com I saw those controllers on sale 50$ and up (unofficial import).

    19).On PS3 you can help sick people by running Folding Home project. Wii and Xbox 360 didn't even think about it.

    20).New 40GB is 399$ or 399 euro (depends on the region) - it has no backwards compatibility with PS2 games, has 2 USBs instead of 4, no built-in card reader, but it's the same PS3, strong, reliable, less noisy, different cooling system. The price is friendly.

    21). But, to be just, I'm not a PS3 fanboy, so (despite I own one) hear this - PS3 games (exclusives) are very hard to develop due to complicated Cell's architecture. We have to wait till developers will figure out how to develop games properly. Sometimes multiplatform games run not so good on PS3 due to the same developing issues - it's hard for developers to get a grip on such advanced technologies
  • Choose by what games you want. Seriously thats what matters. Below i've included links to list of most know XBOX360 and PS3 games- you can sort them by 'Exclusives' if you want to judge by games that you can only get for a particular system. Also note that XBOX 360 has both exclusives and 'console exclusives'(at the bottom of the list)- games that appear only on PC and 360



    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Pla...

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Xbo...



    Asking on the PS3 board guarantees the Fanboys will sit there and bash the 360- not offer an unbiased comparison of the two for you to decide which one is better. Here is a more balanced look at some of the arguments:



    -PS3 supports HDMI 1.3, which the benefit of is 'true color'(or 180 % of the NTSC color Pallette). The PS3 supporter forgets to mention that A LOT of TV's do not support true color nor will developers likely bother to work in 180 % of the color pallete.



    - The PS3's Cell arcitecture and better hardware(an extra year of development) are well and good. But, they aren't so terribly usefull until developers can make good games out of it. Throwing numbers around and figures about how much better the PS3 is doesn't mean squat if no developers can utilize it to make a good game.



    -XBOX 360 does not have a 33% failure rate. There is no proof of that. Besides, RRoD has been addressed with multiple new motherboard and chipset iterations on new XBOX 360's



    -PS3 simply does not have 'better' backwards compatibility. That's asinine (and no B/C on the 40GB version)



    -XBOX 360 has not 'maxed' it's potential. Newer games are still looking continually better.



    -Is there a benefit to PS3 supporting 7 controllers? Does dividing your screen into 7 parts sound like fun gameplay?



    -Sony upgrades firmware for console. So does Microsoft.



    -MGS4 creator Hideo Kojima complained that he had reached PS3's full potential, and could not make MGS4 the game he wanted it to be. This is not a dispariging remark, rather it is to counter the point that 'ps3 has only used 33%" of its true potential. More disk space taken up does not equal a better game. It could simply have more CGI movies and lots of them.



    -Sixaxis controller has been called a failure and no game really utilizes in a particularly good way. In fact, games using sixaxis funtion have been disastrous(Lair, for instance)



    -There are many more AAA quality exclusives on XBOX 360 than PS3 fanboys mention: Fable II, Gears of War II, Halo Wars, Too Human, Banjo Kazooie, Viva Pinata, Mass Effect, GTA IV with Exclusive Content, Dead Rising, Crackdown, Alan Wake, Halo 3, Halo Chronicles, Lost Oddysee, APB, Age of Conan, Infinite Undiscovery, Ninja Gaiden II as well as others.



    -Most multi-platform games still look better on the XBOX 360. PS3's advantage is a 3-5 second shorter load time.



    I myself own an XBOX360 and love it. However, I would buy a PS3 with MGS4 in a heartbeat if I had the money. It doesn't mean I'd trade in my XBOX 360 though. MGS4 is really the only game that I really really cant stand not having. Thats why I prefer XBOX 360. The games appeal to me much more.
  • The ps3 is a significantly more powerful machine. Its cpu, the Cell Broadband Engine, is radically different from most computer cpu's including the xbox's Xenon engine. It consists of a normal 3.2 gHz processor and 7 3.2 gHz co-processors all of which can operate independently on a different aspect of an application, like graphics, sound, shading, etc. The "broadband" part means it is geared toward high flops, or overall operations per second, something that is more like a graphics processor than a core processor. While that's not so great for a multi-tasking pc, for a 3d game machine it's perfect. It also has high-speed XDRAM as its system memory, using only 256mb at 3.2 gHz. PC's by comparison tend to use several gigabytes of slow memory, which again is better for running Windows Vista but not for running a 3d game engine. You don't need a lot of memory for that, you need FAST memory.



    The ps3's gpu is better than the xbox360's also. The ps3 has an custom made Nvidia chip called the RSX, it performs at about the level of a GeForce 8500. The Xbox's gpu is made by ATI and can't do directX10, a major disadvantage because directX10 is becoming standard for new pc games and this will reduce its benefit from being more pc-like in architecture. RSX doesn't do dx10 either but it is a class of its own in terms of graphics engineering.



    The idea that ps3 has few games is a launch-era myth. When launched there were fewer than 20 games total, now there are more than I could count, including more good ones that I want but can't afford to get them all. The exclusives like Metal Gear and Warhawk are better than any other platform's exclusives, and the ps3 versions of multiplatform games are usually better too, especially if they are developed on ps3 first and take advantage of the extra space on blu-ray. Ps3 games are up to 5 times as big as xbox360 and pc games, up to 50gb as opposed to only 9gb.



    ps3 has the added bonus of a free online network, blu-ray player, ability to accept a linux install, a motion-sensing controller, and, in the better versions, full or nearly full backward compatibility and memory card readers. Also more usb ports than xbox's have. Less likely to have a hardware malfunction also.



    The most important reason though is the power. Ps3 has a better game-running core than gaming pc's do, and its gpu is good enough to keep it competitive for several more years.
  • WRONG!!!!!!!

    360 is 1000 x better than the ps3



    your buying a gaming console right then whats better the the games

    ps3 360

    metal gear halo 3

    assassins creed assassins creed

    bio shock (soon) bio shock (now)

    -------------------- ace combat six

    rock band rock band with GH guitars

    GTA 4 GTA 4

    turok turok

    they are both very similar except for the open space and the fact that halo 3 is way better than metal gear and the release dates and the missing accessories.

    and this guy is wrong xbox live is a lot better than ps3 online and there are rumors that the 360 is coming out with a blu ray player add on

    don't forget about the wireless controllers and everything else that has nearly perfect timing

    and the price

    250 - 400 360

    400 - 500 ps3

    i hope u get a 360 then get a wii then get a xbox then get a gamecube then get a ds then a psp then a ps3.
  • Hey "pie" about 90% of the games you listed are on PS3 too.



    Xbox doesn't have:



    METAL GEAR SOLID 4

    Resistance Fall of Man 1&2

    Uncharted : Drakes Fortune

    Gran Turismo (FORZA 3 for 360 will be on 2 DISCS, LMFAO)

    Motorstorm1&2

    Warhawk

    Heavenly Sword

    MLB The Show

    Ratchet & Clank FTOD

    Little Big Planet

    Final Fantasy 13

    Killzone 2

    GOD OF WAR 3

    etc.



    Every system gets Call of Duty, Guitar Hero, Assassin's Creed, DMC, GTA.



    All Xbox has left is Gears, Forza, and fable. Face it, Xbox 360 has peaked and Playstation is just starting to take off.



    Not to mention all the other stuff a PS3 does that a 360 can't. Ps3 is so much better its not even funny. Xbox is the next Dreamcast.
  • PS3 definitely!!!!



    The only "reasons" that you'll ever hear from 360 fanboys is "The 360 has better games" and "The online is better". They always say Halo 3 and Gears of War, that's about it (What about Bioshock you ask? Oh wait! It's coming to the PS3!). The 360 used to have better games, but now the PS3, despite being released nearly a year later than the 360, has the better games; Uncharted Drakes Fortune, Ratchet and Clank Future, Resistance: Fall of Man, Warhawk, Motorstorm, Gran Turismo 5, Metal Gear Solid 4, I could go on... the 360 fanboys who still use this excuse are either ignorant or just can't accept the truth. Plus, the only major games the 360 has to look foward to is Gears of War 2 and Halo Wars (yup, that's the real name), the PS3 has some of the most highly anticipated games coming up such as Resistance 2, Final Fantasy 13, Tekken 6,God of War 3, LittleBigPlanet, SOCOM, Jak and Daxter: The Lost Frontier, the Agency, I could go on...



    As for the online, PSN is just as good as Xbox Live; still, fanboys refuse to believe this, the 360 just has better features, the PS3 is getting EVERY feature that the 360 has it firmware 2.40, and it is also getting HOME. Plus, you can play online for FREE on the PS3



    The PS3 has the potential to have better graphics than the 360, yes, multi-platform games look better on the 360, but that's cuz they were first developed for the 360. Look at any screenshot of Uncharted Drake's Fortune; beautiful graphics ( better than Gears of War) and it's only using 30% of the PS3's power.



    But hey, at least the Red Rings of Death is Original :D



    Lastly, another thing people (mainly 360 fanboys) complain about for the PS3, is the price. Sony is being pretty generous for lowering the price to $400/$500 (40 and 80 GB models, respectively) from the original $600, yet 360 fanboys still think it's overpriced. You pay more, because you get more:



    -Built in Wi-fi

    - Blu Ray Drive that plays Blu Ray movies, CDs, and standard DVDS

    - Can play online for free

    - Ethernet Port

    - HDMI port that supports Full HD (1080p)

    - You can upgrade your own hard drive with any 2.5" SATA HDD; you can have up to 250 GB of space! AND, it DOES NOT void your warranty!

    - Supports 3rd party Bluetooth headsets and video cameras ( but there is an official "Playstation Eye") unlike Microsoft; you can only use the ones they make.



    Total- $400 (40 GB)



    Oh, and one more thing: Metal Gear Solid 4! Enough said





    **** Oh, and since this is in the Playstation Forums, everyone's gonna say PS3, not that I don't agree, just FYI*****





    EDIT:

    pie, I have nothing against the 360, but you can upgrade your hard drive on your PS3 WITHOUT voiding your warranty; you could easily have a 320GB HDD for $120, while a 120 GB HDD for the 360 is $180.



    Most of those games you listed (EXCEPT for Halo Wars, Viva Pinata, and Gears of War 2, and some others) are coming to the PS3 also ( Resident Evil 5, Soul calibur 4, Civilization Revolution, etc.)



    Contrary to popular belief, BLU-RAY IS NOT SLOW. It requires lower disc rotation speed to achieve the same amount of data transfer

    http://www.blu-ray.com/faq/



    YOU PAY MORE FOR THE PS3 CUZ YOU GET MORE.

    I already listed this
  • PS3!!!



    game wise, ps3 has better games and will continue to release better games...

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    price wise, ps3 is cheaper than the 360 if you use xbox live cuz the price will catch up quickly and surpass that of the PS3's

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    feature wise, the Ps3 gets system updates which allow more and more features to add on the ps3, unlike the 360. And ps3 has blueray, free online, and plenty of free downloads...



    Overall... the ps3 is better



    ^.^
  • very simple question to answer....PS3.



    It's almost 100% better.
  • Ps3 out of them.
  • ps3 because the xBoX HaS No gOoD GaMeSs
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  • Contrary to Matthias well put (and drawn out) anwser, the 360 is the dominent console, he says that the PS3 has all these wounderfull games out, and coming out. While I agree that some of these look nice, i wouldnt want to spend $59.99+ just to get a game (most 360 games that i have gotten are 20-30% cheaper from Wall-Mart to GameStop).

    While the 360 has the red rings of death, they dont overheat to the point where they start to smoke (i used to have a ps3, and in an issue of EGM it happend to someone), also the warranty is better, for the 360 i think its something like 3 years, while for the PS3 (what they sold me) its only 90 days (i still got $380 for my PS3).

    Now cost, when it comes to cost the 360 is the apparent winner, but PS3 has had a $200 price cut, which is cool and all, except it was at the cost of backward compadability. The 360 only costs $279-$449. The elite version which is what i have, comes with a 120Gb hard drive, and a bunch of other cool stuff. The PS3 at $400 comes with the controller normal setup crap, and 40Gb which is nice, 20G more then the normal 360.

    OH BUT HERES THE KICKER! for $449 you can get a Xbox360 elite with a 120Gb hard drive, all of which is backwards compatable, and then for $500 you get a PS3 (this is the only 80GB PS3 i could find) with Metal Gear solid.

    Lets say you got another $50 to spend (so we can make each system tally to $500) you can go to gamestop and get 4 or 5 games for the 360 (say, football, baseball, basketball, and 2 other games).



    Also bluray, its nice and all, but whipdey freaking du, its slow as balls and not worth it.

    BioShock on PS3, so what.



    Games for the future of 360....

    Happy Tree Friends False Alarm™

    Ticket to Ride™

    Guitar Hero®: Aerosmith®

    Sid Meier’s Civilization® Revolution™

    NCAA® Football 09

    Soulcalibur® IV

    Spectral Force 3™

    Madden™ NFL 09

    Too Human™

    Tiger Woods PGA TOUR 09

    Mercenaries 2: World in Flames™

    Infinite Undiscovery™

    FaceBreaker™

    Golden Axe: Beast Rider™

    Left 4 Dead™

    Fable® 2

    Viva PiƱata™: Trouble in Paradise

    Gears of War® 2

    Alan Wake™

    Banjo-Kazooie™: Nuts & Bolts

    Halo Wars™

    Call of Duty®: World at War

    Spider-Man™: Web of Shadows

    Fallout® 3



    in the works (yes i got this from xbox.com)



    Resident Evil 5



    Tiberium



    LEGO Batman



    Star Wars: The Force Unleashed



    Mortal Kombat vs DC Universe



    And i forgot to mention GH4 (so much better and cheaper on 360)
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